When we say how someday, when we die and are in heaven, we will be happy, why do we think we will be okay there and not here?
Why do we think heaven isn’t possible here? Why do we get upset that the world is in such a bad state all while we do little to nothing to make our own backyards better?
Didn’t we come to redeem the world? One pebble per person means mountains…
I wonder are we getting it right?
I believe we are getting it right. It may not look pretty or feel good sometimes, but with Earth ascending, we’ve got no choice. I’m not so sure we came to redeem the world as to play the game, dance the dance. At least, I can think of a few people in my life who didn’t come to redeem the world except perhaps by being the flappers and bumpers to my pinball. Great questions!
Well when you heal something in yourself, you don’t see this as emptying the world of a little less angst, helping to lighten the load?
Absolutely! 100%. I’m all about healing. And there are those, like my mother, who never evolved while they were here. It wasn’t her path.
A lot of churches clearly have a way of cultivating that mindset of “suffer now and get your reward later,” and that programming can keep people from realizing true joy. This is probably the root of why my “Paradise” was always elsewhere…some gorgeous piece of land in my mind that wasn’t mine and I couldn’t afford it regardless…so the dream carried on for a long time, mentally cultivating the Paradise that I couldn’t afford, until it occurred to me that we really just have to make Paradise Here Now, even just one room or nine square garden feet at a time. It changed my life when I began calling my home my Paradise and taking responsibility for making This Moment all that I want it to be, all that causes a swell of joy and gratitude.
It changed mine, too…
Wow. Great conversations…When I see Heaven I see many mansions, many levels of vibration that call to each of us according to the vibration we have cultivated during our lifetimes…so all of us will feel at home in our vibratory heaven when we pass. Why should Heaven be any different than here. The souls on this planet are at very different levels of vibratory beingness awakening at their own speed…the darkness always defining light, igniting it and those very close to the end of the learning process here on Earth find their old school yard as so small and claustrophobic as its time to ascend to a higher vibratory playground. So many levels here on Earth to so many levels in the “Heaven”. When we are weary of the old school, a new school opens to us.
Yes, a great and important topic. And extremely positive, high-frequency folk in response, I can feel!!! It’s one of the things about a little corner of the universe like ‘waking the infinite’: a place to engage with like-minded spirits.
It’s a dichotomy through many traditions, isn’t it? Liberation for self or Liberation for others? In Buddhism it played out with the ‘ideal’ of the Arhants, who seek enlightenment for themselves. Then the Mahayana schools came along with the Bodhisattva ideal, a being who vows ‘not to enter final Nirvana until everything, even every blade of grass, is liberated’. Sometimes the Buddhist traditions present stuff in very literalistic terms which make me cringe a bit nowadays, but we can get the drift….
It seems to me that a point is reached on our path where ‘me or others?’, ‘this life or future life?’ all begin to dissolve as questions. They are questions that ‘work’ on certain levels of consciousness only – specifically within heavy-duty dualistic, linear time-and-space modes of experience. As one begins to experience directly, courtesy above all of the kundalini energy in my case, the non-dual nature of reality, and how ‘everything is consciousness’, things kind-of simplify. You just do what you know to be good, to be right, to be true. That will serve both you and the others, life in the future but especially now. Why wait until tomorrow, when today is perfect for ‘paradise’??!!
Ian! You always get me thinking…
I do wonder whether feeling the potential of the Buddha Field expanding has motivated those focused on the Bodhisattva model to push for what often seems extreme or unrealistic. I know I have felt swept away by it. I have also been more focused on taking care of my own back yard, trying to remind myself what a wonderful outcome all of this has been this lifetime. But having won the lottery, I mostly want to give it away to others.
It looks like those waking up throygh history have clustered around people who had kindled the flame, passing it along, resulting in a flurry of activity…which seems to fade over time. The Jesus movement was I think a very good example (the beginning and end of the “apostolic era” which highly suggests awakening activity to me -the sutra of Pentenjali describes many of the signs present in those early Christians), and there are others. Maybe it’s always like this, a wave going in and out again…except I feel that awakening ought not be an exotic but something we are born into when coming here. I guess I ruminate on this…perhaps too much.
I find myself ruminating perhaps too much too…lol I really feel we are here simply to
“wake the infinite”. Everything we are experiencing now is doing that even though it may not appear that way. Your blog is much appreciated.
I ruminate on this.all.the.time.
Why can’t I just play grand theft auto or whatever it is most play for moments of sheer mindlesness?! Or whatever, fill in the blank, why can’t I be like that (“Because there is no way I am going to be like that!” sez the voice in my head)….
It’s been an interesting day Sydney Lynn…
I have asked myself the same: why can’t I play “grand theft auto”….because I can’t. The winter will pass, the Spring will bloom and remind you that it’s safe to come out and play again. This too will pass.
I suppose I ask myself what is heaven? Is it fluffy clouds and peace or is it another realm or place where we flit about in spiritual bodies loving one another? We don’t really know anything except for what’s been written in books, and how do we know those are right? Maybe they are but maybe not. Sometimes I think that heaven is a mindset, a way of being here in this life that encompasses wisdom and realizations about the human condition, meaning, purpose, love, and all that. Maybe things like the Kundalini are just symptomatic of our “ascension” into whatever heaven might be…an indicator for us, a reminder, that we are on the right path in life and once our bodies die, we go to this other “better” place. I personally don’t think that the idea of heaven is the destiny for humans and that we’re supposed to strive for it. It’s like chasing after an end result and not living in the moment. This is all we have. I do think we go back somewhere else after this life and that what we do here, on an individual level, within the deepest recesses of our selves, makes all the difference in the world. Right? Be the change you want to see in the world.
I like what you said.
For me, it has been and continues to be here and now….no other place, no other location. The more awareness is brought into this moment, the more powerfully I sense what is and has always been. I myself stay away from heaven as a reference point for all but the most allegorical or mythic allusions simply because for me it has always been a state of being. I find it interesting how the Western mind ties so much of its progress and success to some imagined heaven, a curious idea to me about who we are and how we ought be rewarded (or punished). It all strikes me as amazingly terrestrial.
The Judeo-Christian view of Heaven is truly bi-polar. lol.
I keep trying to find NDE’s of people who aren’t Christian and who are non-Western to see how they describe their experience.
Anita Moorjani who is Indian, discovered by Wayne Dyer! From her NDE she recovered fully from cancer and stated in her book, Dying to be Me, that heaven was a state of being.
Does she go into her NDE in the book?
She does. It’s a great book.
Great. I’ll check her stuff out!
She talks about her NDE on her You Tube too.